the cities in the late 1970s and early 1908s. he lost in the primary to david dinkins. he often said joke about that's, the people threw me out, and now the people must be punished. ah, mayor koch. god bless him. he was 88 years old. ben smith, your favored ed koch memory/story? >> i wrote his obituary. i interviewed him for his obituary in 2002. >> wow. >> he had already by then written his epitath that appears on his tomb stone, which has already been made. i quoted it in the story, and there it is. i love that he recorded a video for the "new york times" that begins i'm gone now. he exits talking. he just never lost his step. he just stayed. >> he never did. iran. >> i would say not to speak ill of the dead and with all respect to his legacy -- >> ah oh. >> i think -- no, it has to be recognized that he helped stoke a lot of racial tensions and splits between african-americans and jews which were regrettable and which luckily some of the bridges have been built since then. >> he did sort of own up to some of them in his later